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Naturally Aspirated Tuning / Anyone have this Set up: M50 NonVanos 3.0 Stoker Stock MAF M3Header Schrick Cams
« on: February 22, 2015, 01:27:33 PM »
Hi guys. I hope to get REALLY lucky here and find a pre-built tune for my Frankenstein motor. ( or close to it)
First post here and I hope it goes better than the last arse-clown I talked to about programming a chip for this build.
I bought a WAR chip because I need a custom tune and I hope someone has the same specs I am about to mention so I can just "borrow" your tune...I'm not very good at this stuff...
I have built a Fankenstein motor and need to make sure I tune it so it doesn't ruin all the hard work I did ( not to mention the $$ !)
-I took a stock OBD1 Non-Vanos M50B25 and block and stroked it with 3.0 pistons/rods/crank.
-I have a set of Non-Vanos Shrick Cams ( I believe they are 264 Intake and 256 Exhaust.)
-I have a Header from a European E36 M3 Evo, and the Stock MAF with just a cone filter on it.
I am still in the market for the correct injectors to get because I don't know if the stock 16# injectors can handle the extra cylinder volume I created.
-Stock head, just rebuilt back to brand new ( with the Cams inside)
What I need is a tune that will let this engine run efficiently without undoing all my hard work!
I talked to one guy (who shall remain nameless) and he promised me he was the best, and he promised he could reprogram me a factory chip that would be exactly PERFECT for this motor...(because a WAR chip was a waste of time (his words)...and after paying him, a month later, he messages me and says, oh, by the way, I can't do a chip for a 402 Red Label ECU.....
WTF?
He wanted me to switch over to a Vanos ECU with the harness and sensors and all....again, WTF?
The whole purpose of this project was to NOT have a Vanos unit to deal with. I do not want VANOS! I had to rebuild my motor because it was coming to the end of its useful life after 280,000 miles and I can't afford a new car so....
So, needless to say, got a refund, but that leaves me back to needing a PROPER tune for this Frankenstein motor.
I bought myslef a WAR chip and an Wideband A/F meter and am ready to try this, but the BIGGEST problem is ME!
I don't have very good luck with custom tuning. I installed a Megasquirt on my old 78 Scirocco and got that reasonable close to good, so I am familiar with fuel tables and timing curvs and the basics of tuning for diferent loads and rom etc, but I am TERRIFIED of doing anything bad this freshly built motor, so I call out to you good people for help!
I am looking for a tune that can handle the 3.0L displacement and the higher flow cams and exhaust with efficiency and reliability.
I am not looking for POWER... Everyone seems to want to use the WAR to wrangle out every inch of horsepower from their motor, which it can do! but honestly, I am really looking more for LONGEVITY and RELIABILITY...the performance will come from the stroked internals and the higher flow efficency, and I PROMISE I will be happy with just that
, but this engine needs to last me another 200,000 miles, cause I am NOT doing this crazy rebuild thing again!! 
Ok- Long story short:
I need a tune for these specs:
-M50 OBD1 Non Vanos 402 Red Label ECU
-3.0L Internals
-Shrick Street Cams 264 I - 256 E
-Tubular M3 Evo Header
-Stock MAF - Cone Filter
-Stock Coil Packs
- I will also need to know WHAT INJECTORS to use and I will get them.
That's a lot to read and I thank you for helping me out guys!
Let me know what to do next.
I'm hoping someone out there has this tune, or at least a tune to start with.
First post here and I hope it goes better than the last arse-clown I talked to about programming a chip for this build.
I bought a WAR chip because I need a custom tune and I hope someone has the same specs I am about to mention so I can just "borrow" your tune...I'm not very good at this stuff...
I have built a Fankenstein motor and need to make sure I tune it so it doesn't ruin all the hard work I did ( not to mention the $$ !)
-I took a stock OBD1 Non-Vanos M50B25 and block and stroked it with 3.0 pistons/rods/crank.
-I have a set of Non-Vanos Shrick Cams ( I believe they are 264 Intake and 256 Exhaust.)
-I have a Header from a European E36 M3 Evo, and the Stock MAF with just a cone filter on it.
I am still in the market for the correct injectors to get because I don't know if the stock 16# injectors can handle the extra cylinder volume I created.
-Stock head, just rebuilt back to brand new ( with the Cams inside)
What I need is a tune that will let this engine run efficiently without undoing all my hard work!
I talked to one guy (who shall remain nameless) and he promised me he was the best, and he promised he could reprogram me a factory chip that would be exactly PERFECT for this motor...(because a WAR chip was a waste of time (his words)...and after paying him, a month later, he messages me and says, oh, by the way, I can't do a chip for a 402 Red Label ECU.....
WTF?
He wanted me to switch over to a Vanos ECU with the harness and sensors and all....again, WTF?
The whole purpose of this project was to NOT have a Vanos unit to deal with. I do not want VANOS! I had to rebuild my motor because it was coming to the end of its useful life after 280,000 miles and I can't afford a new car so....
So, needless to say, got a refund, but that leaves me back to needing a PROPER tune for this Frankenstein motor.
I bought myslef a WAR chip and an Wideband A/F meter and am ready to try this, but the BIGGEST problem is ME!
I don't have very good luck with custom tuning. I installed a Megasquirt on my old 78 Scirocco and got that reasonable close to good, so I am familiar with fuel tables and timing curvs and the basics of tuning for diferent loads and rom etc, but I am TERRIFIED of doing anything bad this freshly built motor, so I call out to you good people for help!
I am looking for a tune that can handle the 3.0L displacement and the higher flow cams and exhaust with efficiency and reliability.
I am not looking for POWER... Everyone seems to want to use the WAR to wrangle out every inch of horsepower from their motor, which it can do! but honestly, I am really looking more for LONGEVITY and RELIABILITY...the performance will come from the stroked internals and the higher flow efficency, and I PROMISE I will be happy with just that
, but this engine needs to last me another 200,000 miles, cause I am NOT doing this crazy rebuild thing again!! Ok- Long story short:
I need a tune for these specs:
-M50 OBD1 Non Vanos 402 Red Label ECU
-3.0L Internals
-Shrick Street Cams 264 I - 256 E
-Tubular M3 Evo Header
-Stock MAF - Cone Filter
-Stock Coil Packs
- I will also need to know WHAT INJECTORS to use and I will get them.
That's a lot to read and I thank you for helping me out guys!
Let me know what to do next.
I'm hoping someone out there has this tune, or at least a tune to start with.